En réponse à Jeff Jones <[log in to unmask]>: > Hi all, > I have some tables of phonetic symbols ((I hope the columns line up)) > I'm using for my Rubaga description and am wondering if anyone would > care to provide X-SAMPA equivalents. > X-SAMPA equivalents? No problem! The ones I don't give equivalents to are identical in X-SAMPA to what you gave. And I hope it will still be lining up with me :)) . > Consonants: > | stop fricative nasal trill later. aprx. > | VL Vd VL Vd Vd VL Vd Vd Vd > ----------------+------------------------------------------ > bilabial | p b PW m w p\_w /w/ is normally a labiovelar approximant. You're sure that what you mean is purely bilabial? (I ask that because you also have a labiovelar row, where /w/ would fit better) > labiodental | f v > labiodent.+pal. | fJ vJ f_j v_j Quite simple. Your W is X-SAMPA _w, and your J is X-SAMPA _j :)) . > apicodental | t d T D n l > apicodent.+lab. | TW DW T_w D_w > alveolar | s z (r) > retroflex | R r` There's nothing like a retroflex trill in IPA (and I can't see how to mark it). I replaced it here by the tap. > palatoalveolar | S Z > palatovelar or > palatal | c gJ C GJ nJ (lJ) j J\ j\ J L > velar | k g x G N > labiovelar | kW gW xW GW NW (LW) k_w g_w x_w G_w N_w L\_w > uvular | X Q R\_0 R\ I rendered your voiceless uvular trill with the voiced one and the sign for voicelessness. > glottal | h > labioglottal | (hW) h_w > > Also, what's the proper form of the affricates [tS] and [dZ] (the t > and > d in these are alveolar). > [t_S] and [d_Z] (_ renders the tie bar, but is also used for diacritics in X- SAMPA). > Vowels: > | unrounded rounded > | front central back > ---------+--------------------------- > close | i u > closemid | I U > mid | e @ o > openmid | E V O > open | a > [I] and [U] are not close-mid (that's [e] and [o]), they are close lax. The only mid vowel is the schwa [@]. Also, [a] is not really central but front (unless you mean , which is near open central unrounded, or inverted a in IPA. You can also centralise [a], but then you have to use the centralise diacritic - the umlaut - which makes in X-SAMPA [a_"]) and [V], if you mean the vowel in "but" (inverted v in IPA) is the unrounded equivalent of [O]. Apart from that, you're using X-SAMPA for the vowels already :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.