>From: Christian Thalmann <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Phonology >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:48:04 +0200 > >Here are some "recipes" to learn /y/ and /2/: > >/y/: Round your lips as if saying "oo", but instead say "ee" (without > unrounding the lips!). That should do the trick. > >/2/: Round your lips as if saying "oh", but instead say "ay" (without > unrounding the lips, and if possible without the offglide > towards y or w. > >Have fun! With all respect, I've always found those "try to say X but say Y instead" instructions rather confusing - just how I'm supposed to do *that*? Should anyone else have similar difficulties, my woolhead version of /2/, for example, would be "say /o::/ and move your tongue forwards, keeping everything else carefully in the same place" or "say /e::/ and round your lips". Yes, that's basically the same what you said, but at least I could follow this more easily. :) ----- On the subject, is there any tricks for how to better hear the difference between spoken sounds - in addition of listening the sound files over and over again? --- -M. Å. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.