Tristan McLeay wrote: > It's still the same in my seventeen-year-old presence. (i.e. I'm a > seventeen year-old and still get angry at my younger siblings (11, 14) > when they swear. Of course, IMHO, the only swear word is 'fuck', which I > only use to illustrate the word. Say 'root' or 'shit' or 'bugger' or > 'bloody' all you like, just don't say 'f*ck'. Well, 'bugger' is probably not a swear word at all these days, at least not in Australian English, otherwise a certain famous advert for cars wouldn't have so used it so liberally on television. Neither is 'root' - that's just slang. Maybe not the kind of slang you use in polite company, but I don't think any definition would actually class it as swearing. I'm twenty-five, and I get annoyed when my peers use 'shit' simply as a synonym for 'stuff', with no particularly negative connotations at all (as in the phrase 'and shit' meaning 'et cetera'). That really grates. I think one difference between swear words like 'bloody' and 'shit' versus the ultimate 'fuck' is that the former usually have connotations simply of annoyance or tragedy (you say shit when a computer crashes) whereas the latter is more strongly associated with outright insults. Computer lab is closing. Must go. Adrian.