I sent that this morning, but only too Joe. Sorry : > Has anyone thought of a case which marks a genetive, but marks it on the > posessed, not the posessor? I'll make up an example -- > Does this exist in any natlangs? Yes, nawatl has this feature, even if it's not a genetive case but rather a posessor prefix. For example, /kal-li/ is "house(s)" (root -kal-), and if you want to say "my house", the form is /no-kal/. Then, "the woman's house", it is /i:-kal siwa:t^l/ 'her house the woman', where /i:/ is the 3rd person possessor suffix (and /siwa:t^l/ is "the woman"). > kathai elom > cat.AGN(f) 3s.ACC(m) > cat-of him > his cat What I don't understand is why you use an ACC for 3s : maybe a nominative or an oblique case could do the job here, couldn't it ? It seems to me that there is no transitive relation between the posessed and his posessor, but I may be wrong. Julien.