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Christophe Grandsire wrote:

>En réponse à Tim May <[log in to unmask]>:
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>>Christophe Grandsire writes:
>> > En réponse à Muke Tever <[log in to unmask]>:
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>> > > Why is the length stated before the width?
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>> > Not length stated before width, but longest size stated before
>>shorter size. A
>> > perfectly logical choice to me.
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>My bad. I've just checked, and it *always* smallest size first and bigger size
>afterwards (i.e. 210x297). But it's always in that order, not dependent on the
>orientation of the paper. Still, for paper I still find that vertical should go
>before horizontal (maybe because by convention coordinates on a page are
>generally taken from the top left hand corner rather than the bottom left...).
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Are you sure? I'm 99% positive you're supposed to cite paper sizes
length by width...

>>But what if it's lined paper, and you wish to specify which way the
>>lines run?
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>What do you think the terms "landscape" and "portrait" are for? :))
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>Anyway, have you ever seen landscape oriented lined paper? I've never seen that
>personally. Lined paper is always portrait as far as I know.
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You presumably never saw the paper used in primary school in Australia
when learning how to write, then. Always landscape (and ruled in
thirds... i.e. one solid line, two dotted lines, one solid line, two
dotted lines etc., with the solid line being the baseline, the first
dotted line above that being the x-height, and the second being the
ascender height).

>  But I have to say, I don't
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>>know how paper sizes are normally referred to (other than by A
>>numbers, etc).
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>They are probably there so that people don't discuss about which size should go
>first :))) .
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Or because it's easier to see the relationship between a piece of A0
paper and a piece of A4 paper than it is between a piece of paper
sqrt(2a).a=1 m**2 and 297x210 mm.

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Tristan