Andreas Johansson scripsit: > |v|=[f] is of course perfectly regular in German, tho' |v|=[v] is a not > uncommon irregularity. My mother the native speaker and _Germanist_ told me that "v" was pronounced /v/ in non-native words such as "November" and "van Beethoven" (LvB was born in Bonn, but the family was from South Brabant). -- John Cowan <[log in to unmask]> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com Unified Gaelic in Cyrillic script! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celticonlang