From: +ACI-E. Notagain+ACI- +ADw-ecg321+AEA-AOL.COM+AD4- Subject: Re: English diglossia (was Re: retroflex consonants) +AD4- Tiovaqnaki Tels Joe: +AD4- +AD4- +AFs-super snip+AF0- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-In writing (at least,semi-formal writing), I can understand anyone who +AD4- knows English, even if +AD4- +AD4-they're from an area where I have a hard time understanding the spoken +AD4- +AD4-English, such as the Bahamas, Australia, Yorkshire, Kentucky, or those on +AD4- +AD4-the list whose spoken English might sound unintelligible to my ears. +AD4- +AD4- I only have problems understanding non-native English speakers (luckily my +AD4- dentist's pronunciation is good enough that I only have to ask him to +AD4- repeat about 5-10+ACU- of what he says). Australian and other somewhat related +AD4- accents (like all forms of British, Irish, Scottish, everything elsish) are +AD4- no problem to me (actually, I understand Aussie accents better than that +AD4- psuedo-ghetto-speak so prevalent in teenagers and on court shows -- how, +AD4- may I ask, do you +ACI-axe+ACI- someone to do something?). Well, I'm not a teenager, and never grew up in a ghetto, nor even a pseudo-ghetto, but I've noticed this in my own speech occasionally. And my father does it too sometimes. It's never +ACI-ask+ACI- +AD0- /+ACY-ks/, but +ACI-asked+ACI- +AD0- /+ACY-akst/ does happen. The /t/ has to be conditioning this one. I've also noticed that I sometimes add a +ACI-t+ACI- to words ending in +ACI-f+ACI-, like /klIft/ for +ACI-cliff+ACI-. It sounds normal, I only noticed it when one of these Californios pointed it out to me. Anyone else here use +ACI-says+ACI- as the generic verb for reporting what someone said? In anything informal, I'll often have +ACI-says+ACI-, as in: Then he says, +ACI-I think I'll just throw your ocelot right off the roof+ACEAIg-. So I says to him, +ACI-Then the bunny's gonna get it+ACEAIg-. Then he says to me, +ACI-What on earth is Joe smoking this time?+ACI-. But in my mind, I'm thinking past tense, so when I write it down, it comes out as +ACI-said+ACI-. I remember moving to California and realizing that no one could understand which socket I wanted when working with somebody. When I asked for a 3/8+ACI- socket, I'd say, +ACI-Give me the 3/8, will you?+ACI-. /wEn ai j+ACY-st fr+AEA- tSrie sAkIt daid sei gImid+AEA- tSrijes wIj+AEA-/ Maybe that will give you folks a clearer example of how I speak. I'm from New York originally (NOT the city), for those who asked. +AD4- Wow, do I have a lot of parentheses in that. You do indeed.