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From: "Sally Caves" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: question on sampa representation

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Fatula" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Chutzpah? J. C. Wells?
> >
> > Tristan, if you're wondering why he gave a phonetic transcription of
> > "chutzpah", I have the same question.
> John gave it, I believe, because he was demonstrating to me the difference
> between the /U/ sound and the /V/ sound.
> Put, pull, and putter, pun--in Americanese.

Now I'm confused.  Which is /U/ and which is /V/?  In GA, or at least as I
pronounce it, the following sets have the same vowel.

- put book foot
- pull rule ghoul fool
- putter pun rough lung judge

So that's three different vowels.  Can anyone help out here?