On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:16, Roger Mills wrote: > Not all (actually palatals and dentals are rarest)......... > cull, gull, mull, null, dull, lull, cult, gulf, gulp, skull, bulb, pulp, > mulct, mulch, pulse > ultra, sultry, pulley, gully, sully, lullaby, fulminate, culminate, > refulgent, culprit, culpable, re/im/com/pulsive, inculcate, Pardon me? You have /U/ for most of those? Wow... American dialects differ more widely than I thought. (I have /6/ (my 'cut' vowel) in those that have just a single /l/ and /O/ (my 'cot' vowel) in those with /l/+a consonant, except pulley /"puli/ (u=full vowel, not fool vowel, which is phonetically the same but longer), fulminate /"fulm@%n&it/, culminate /"k6lm@%n&it/~/"kOlm@%n&it/. 'Inculcate' and 'mulct' I've never heard before, but at a guess I'd say they had the /O/ vowel. The /l/s may or may not be realised as , [u] or null, depending on various factors.) Tristan.