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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christophe Grandsire" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: question on sampa representation


> En réponse à "H. S. Teoh" <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> >
> > OK, I'm not even going to mention English pronunciation, but I
> > *really*
> > want somebody who knows better to clarify exactly what is the
> > difference
> > between XSAMPA [A], [O], and [Q]. IPA vowels continue to elude me. :-(
> >
>
> I can't imagine why. All those different vowels are extremely unlike each
other
> to me. [O] is to [o] what [E] is to [e], i.e. just a bit more open. [Q] is
also
> on the [o]-[O] line, but happens when you open your mouth all the way
(it's the
> lowest you can get in the back, as low as [a], and rounded). [A] is
unrounded
> [Q], or backed [a].
>
> Needless to say, I can produce all those different vowels without a
problem,
> and they are all phonemic in Maggel ;))))) .
>
>

I have problems distinguishing [Q] and [O], but I can tell [A] from both of
them.