But the point crocuta crocuta (spotted hyena) makes, is that exercising power as a matter of course, does depend on physical size and strength. Crocuta crocuta has females at least 10% larger than males, so if I want to create a conspecies of humanity that is like hyenas - eg, the ultimate survivalists, almost purely carnivorous, big teeth, etc, I have to take that into account. I've read some feminist SF, and have to laugh at their premises now - anything resebling a matriarchy is not attainable with the homo sapiens sapiens social structuring - instead, we've got a partially functional patriarchy - partial because we are just as close to the bonobo social structure as to the chimpanzee social structure. Wesley Parish On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:29, you wrote: > >>My Trelkairni are similar too. The females are close to 7 feet tall and > > built like Shaquile O'Neil. the males are around 5' 6" on average. The > females give birth to the offspring, but then it is the male's > responsibility to care for the infants including feeding by regurgitation. > The Trelkairni, while otherwise very mamiloid do not have mamaries in > either sex. The women hold all the cards. Even in the early 2300's males > do not have the vote and are veiwed by the law as only slightly more than > property. They aren't slaves. They can initiate divorce prceedings, but > the divorce will not be granted without the wife's consent. Children go to > the mother without question except in the most extrodinary cases. Males > are not permitted in the preisthood, government, military or many other > occupations beyond cottage industries, governitos, secretaries, > servant-type occupations and the world's oldest profession. > > Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the Trelkairini languages. > > Adam > > --- Jake X <starvingpoet@P...> wrote: > > ['wEsli r\oUt]: > > > The word |liyhita| - "midwife" translates "Queen", but then Lakhabrech > > > are a matriarchy - with women about 6 foot plus, and men about 5 and a > > >half feet plus, a la crocuta crocuta (spotted hyena) - so I figured it > > >all came out even. > > > > Finally someone after my own tastes. The Mocteno are a matriarchy too, > > or > > > at least a matri- something. Most of the grammar is based on their idea > > of female superiority, and they derive their masculine gender from the > > inanimate one of the protolanguage. ;-) I'm so mean. I couldn't get away > > with it if I weren't a man myself. > > Jake<< > > Personally, I find the idea of a matriarchy odd, since no known culture > has truly had one. My conlang's not associated with a conculture, but I've > nevertheless paid attention to gender. I've tried to make it pretty gender > equal. For an example, the word that would be translated as "kingdom" in > English would be "shukuho" (shuku- ruler, monarch -ho, place noun). > Just my two cents... > > Noelle > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" You ask, "What is the most important thing?" Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."