En réponse à Andreas Johansson : >I meant anade_w_ism literally - some natlang is supposed to have a ten times >worse version of whatever weirdity I can think up. Something like you >described for Maggel, perhaps, or a language there numbers ending in 1 4 7 or >9, plus those divisible by 21, require the noun to be in the dual, the rest >singular, except zero, which requires feminine nouns to be in the plural and >masculine ones in a nullar number only used for this.* Hehe, you should take a look at the Arabic number system. Check the "Turkish and Arabic" message at http://www.livejournal.com/community/linguaphiles/327787.html. It must be the most complicated system I've seen for a natural language :)) . Of course, there must be a language which does it even more complicatedly out there ;))) . Oh, and note that I got the idea of nouns agreeing with the number part in *front* of them from some natlang which does do that (I'm thinking Breton, but I'm actually not sure anymore which one it was :((( . I think Latin could have such tricks too). Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.