Quoting John Cowan <[log in to unmask]>:

> Andreas Johansson scripsit:
> > Would he have used _romani_ like that? Last I read of this episode,
> the writer
> > assumed the expected address has been _milites_.
> That's certainly how Suetonius tells it:
> # Decimanos autem Romae cum ingentibus minis summoque etiam urbis
> # periculo missionem et praemia flagitantes, ardente tunc in Africa
> bello,
> # neque adire cunctatus est, quamquam deterrentibus amicis, neque
> dimittere;
> # sed una voce, qua 'Quirites' eos pro militibus appellarat, tam
> facile
> # circumegit et flexit, ut ei milites esse confestim responderint et
> quamvis
> # recusantem ultro in Africam sint secuti; ac sic quoque
> seditiosissimum
> # quemque et praedae et agri destinati tertia parte multavit.

Latin is essentially a language that Andreas does not know ...

Would you happen to have a translation of this piece at hand?


> Tacitus, who only mentions the story in passing, is rather more vague.
> But
> of course who knows what was in Caesar's mind at the time?
> Lewis's Elementary Latin Dictionary says:
> # Quiris, itis, gen plur. tium, m  [Cures] .-- Plur, the inhabitants
> of
> # Cures, Quirites: prisci, V.--After the Sabines and the Romans were
> united,
> # the people were called Quirites: ita geminata urbe . . . Quirites
> # a curibus appellati, L.; the term implied civilians, while Romani
> was
> # regarded as the name of warriors and rulers. The two were united in
> # various phrases designating the whole people: populus R. Quiritium,
> the
> # Roman commonwealth of Quirite citizens, L.: exercitus populi R.
> Quiritium,
> # L.: populus R. Quiritesque, L.: Quirites Romani, L.; orators often
> # addressed the people as Quirites.--In the phrase, ius Quiritium, the
> # civil rights of a citizen in Rome: iure Quiritium liber esse.--Sing,
> # a Roman citizen, Quirite: dona Quiritis, H.: reddere iura Quiriti,
> O.:
> # Quis te re donavit Quiritem Dis patriis? i. e. unharmed, H.--Of
> bees,
> # citizens, commonalty: ipsae regem, parvosque Quirites Sufficiunt, V.
> --
> "We are lost, lost.  No name, no business, no Precious, nothing.  Only
> empty.
> Only hungry: yes, we are hungry.  A few little fishes, nassty bony
> little
> fishes, for a poor creature, and they say death.  So wise they are; so
> just,
> so very just."  --Gollum        [log in to unmask]