On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 23:59, Andreas Johansson wrote: > "Races" vs "raises" comes to mind. > > The position I've got the most trouble getting it right in is final. Happily, > [s] and [z] appear not to be distinctive finally after a consonant - or can > anyone think of a minimal pair for that? Apparently you've decided that inflexions are allowed, so 'wince' vs 'wins'. -- Tristan.