En réponse à Andreas Johansson : > > > > NB [h\] doesn't have modal voicing (which would be impossible] but > > breathy > > voicing. Indeed [h\] **is** essentially breathy voicing. > >What _is_ modal and breathy voicing, articulatorily? Anyway, I find strange the claim of BP that you cannot produce a purely voiced glottal fricative. I'm doing one right now! And it's not *at all* breathy voicing (which I haven't yet managed to produce. I can only manage creaky voice :)) ). Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.