Roger Mills sikyal:

> JS Bangs wrote:
> > John Leland sikyal:
> >
> > > Incidentally, does anyone know the X-sampa spellings for the sounds I
> > > spell in Rihana-ye tl and hl? (I can only say they are pronounced as
> > > spelled.)
> >
> > Most likely [tK] and [K]. Voiceless lateral fricatives is [K].
> In a lot of American Indianist work, you'll see "tl" written as a l.c.
> lambda with a little crossbar on the ascender.  I thought this had made it
> into IPA, but am not sure and I don't have time to look now.

IIRC, this can be an IPA symbol for this sound. I was just using XSAMPA.

> >
> > [tK] is a neat sound.
> Yes.  BTW didn't _sikyal_ in your heading used to be _sikayal_?  A recent
> Vowel Deletion Rule, or have I been misreading it all along???? :-)))

It did used to be _sikayal_. The change, however, is morphological, not
phonological, and happened many months ago, at least. Nouns ending in -a
now lose that -a before adding a verbal morph, so _sika_ 'writing, written
language' > _sikya_ 'to write', of which _sikyal_ is the past tense.

Jesse S. Bangs [log in to unmask]

Jesus asked them, "Who do you say that I am?"

And they answered, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground
of our being, the kerygma in which we find the ultimate meaning of our
interpersonal relationship."

And Jesus said, "What?"