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At 06:40 17/07/03, you wrote:
>  --- "Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I'm looking for the ones that are phonemically
> > distinct in *some*
> > dialect.  I don't distinguish /O/ and /A/ either -
> > [O] doesn't
> > appear at all in my speech unless I'm intentionally
> > imitating another
> > dialect or speaking another language.  But I
> > recognize that they're
> > distinct English phonemes because in some dialects
> > they're distinct.
>
>
>Perhaps /Vi/ (and /Vu/?) in dialects with Canadian
>rising.


No, they aren't separate phonemes (well, assuming one believes in ordered
rules): they're allophones of /ai/, /au/ before voiceless consonants.

Oh, and don't forget /x/ (I don't think I've seen that mentioned yet).

Ian