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On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:30:55PM -0700, JS Bangs wrote:
> Even better: _writer_ [rVI4r=] v. _rider_ [raI4r=], the most infamous
> example (because the conditioning environment is lost on the surface,
> here).

Yeah, but only on the surface.  Underneath, it's just the standard
English lengthening of tense vowels before a voiced consonant,
notwithstanding the fact that the consonants in question wind up
reduced to phones that aren't distinguished based on voice.
Guess the lengthening happens first.

-Mark