On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:46, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> YAEPT continueth:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 04:47:38PM +1000, Tristan wrote:
> > Well, I say [klo:].
> So for you, "claw" rhymes with "show", "hoe", and/or "so"?

No, 'show', 'hoe' and 'so' are all diphthongs starting from something
fronter than [o], backer than [&] and not [@], and ending on something
high, rounded and not front. I'm not sure about the exact details of the
rest. It varies based on position in word (before an /l/ it's always
[Ou]) and social conditions, I think. Speakers of Broad Australian make
it something more like [Au] or [6u], even approaching [au] (unless it's
before an /l/), but it's normally higher than that for me :) 'How' and
suchlike are protected from homophony by virtue of being [&u]

OTOH, 'claw' does rhyme with 'more' and 'door' (and 'your'/'you're' and
'sure', but not 'pure' or 'sewer').

And my 'caught' sounds pretty similar to a (e.g.) Scottish 'coat'.

(Note: [&]=ash)