I would reasonably pick
qu t ts c k
because it's hard for me to execute [q] before [i] (I'm tempted to pronounce
[ši]) and I tend to pronounce conlangs' [k] as [q] because of the natlangs I
But if [q] is always followed by [w], then I can tell q and k from one
another and always pronounce them right ;-)) Plus, I feel that would match
(personal biased feeling) how Kele˝ sounds.

I wanted to get rid of [p] too, then I realized it was only in certain
environment, like mVmV-, mVpV-, lVpV- and nVpV-, while tVpV- and kVpV- and
any pVCV sounded OK and even indispensable to my ear in some instances. So I
narrowed the allowed combinations of consonants to build my current vocab (I
did everything on Excel because I can't do any programming nor use any
software with instructions in (even basic) compuberish.) The problem will
finally settle when in a near future I will make up my mind and use [P],
[b], [mb], [d], [nd] and [g] as allophones for [p], [t] and [k] as C2 and/or

Sylvia Sotomayor <[log in to unmask]> a mitatangu ai:

So, KÚlen has five stops:
p (labial)    t (dental)    ts* (alveolar)    c (palatal)    k (velar)
(*ts is often just [s] but is still counted as a stop.)
I've been contemplating some sound change with the goal of getting rid
of [p].
Which would be more reasonable?:

p    t   ts   c   k     becoming
k    t    ts   c   q     or becoming
kw  t   ts   c   k


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