In a message dated 2004:01:09 05:39:17 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: >Ah, but the important question is not "Is it true?" >but rather "Is it fun to believe?" > >If it's fun to believe then who cares if it's true or >not? LMAO (On the Dirty Floor No Less) Spoken like a latent panentheist/trickster type... [see my Ruland quote below ... then ponder what numinous fun it is to believe in a Godhead which/who is/are Multiple Sentience/Personality! All the "proof(s)" needed is in the Cosmos Itself, hehe, ... and all around us in the world at large...] -|-|--|---|-----|--------|-------------|---------------------| Hanuman Zhang, heeding the Call(ing) to Divine Chaos & Creation _NADA BRAHMA_ < Sanskrit > "sound = Godhead" "You breathe redemption, motive, power, You're elemental, super-collider yeah tenn0!, You are air and earth, fire and ocean, You are Word, You are tenn0 tenn0!" --- mortal - "tenn0" _LILA_ < Sanskrit > 1. the universe is what happens when God wants to play - Divine Play - the play of the Divine in its Cosmic Dance, whimsy - like a child playing alone God the Cosmic Dancer - whose routine is all creatures and all worlds - the Cosmos flows - a world from the tireless unending resistless stream of God's energy that _is_ Lila 2. joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art of creation this is Lila "A constellation is basially a conical chunk of stars with the apex at Earth with an arbitrary space angle." - Andreas Johansson "...divine chaos ...rumors of chaos have been known to enhance the ...vision.... for the godhead manifests no more of its reality than the limited grammar of each person's imagination and conceptual system can handle. A second advantage is suggested by William James in _Varieties of Religious Experience_. James affirms the possibilty of many gods, mostly because he takes seriously his multiverse theory of personal monads, each one of us experiencing a unique... revelation. An orderly monistic and monotheistic system, he fears, might succumb to a craving for logical coherence, and trim away some of the mystery, rich indeterminancy, and tragic ambiguity in a complete numinous experience. For some temperaments, the ambivalent gentleness and savagery of fate can be imagined effectively in a godhead split into personified attributes, sometimes at war, sometimes in shifting alliance." - Vernon Ruland, _Eight Sacred Horizons: The Religious Imagination East and West_ "We bow to the _satvika_ Shiva Whose _angika_ is the body Whose _vachika_ is the entire language Whose _aharya_ is the moon and the stars"