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Paul Roser wrote:

>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:42:05 -0500, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Paul Roser wrote:
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>>>     -l/r/s + t-  >  LL (voiceless laminodental lateral fricative)
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>>What's the difference between [L] and [K]?   Or are you not using
>>X-SAMPA here?
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>Sorry, I was being lazy & not using X-SAMPA. iirc in X-SAMPA it should be
>-l/r/s + t- > KK
>-l/r/s + d- > K\K\
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>the little I've been able to glean is that these are possibly palatalized
>laminodental lateral fricatives which are homorganic with the stops /t, d/.
>Sardinian, like many of the Southern Italian dialects, also has geminate
>apical (post?)alveolar voiced stop & nasal for Latin geminate /ll, nn/
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I would guess that in Welsh they come from a voiceless(and preaspirated)
approximant, but I'm probably wrong.