E f+AOk-sto Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>: > Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]> writes: >> change, and /h/ reappeared in some Romance languages, to disappear >> again. In Spanish, it came from initial /f/ which turned into /h/ >> (except in front of /w/, which explains Spanish <fuego> vs. <hablar> >> from Latin FOCUS and FABULARE, IIRC). This new /h/ disappeared again. > > This loss happened sometime just after the Spanish colonized the > Philippines at least, because certain loanwords that were pronounced with > an initial H, but lost the H, are pronounced with that H in Philippines > Spanish (according to a paper on Chabacano, which i'd believe since the > author had about twenty scholarly sources to write it!). Actually the loss was probably early, but I think it wasn't lost in all dialects. I have read an analysis of a dialect of Central American Spanish (I forget what region exactly) that retains initial /h/ as well, even now (well... the book was dated from the 70s). *Muke! -- http://frath.net/ E jer savne zarj+AOk- mas ne http://kohath.livejournal.com/ Se imn+AOk- koone'f metha http://kohath.deviantart.com/ Brissve m+AOk- kol+AOk- ad+AOI-.