Quoting [log in to unmask]: > Andreas Johansson scripsit: > > > You see - the current scheme is too confusing for my poor brain! (And I'm > sure > > someone told me [r`] was the approximant recently; grumble, grumble.) > > In X-SAMPA ` functions as the retroflex diacritic as well as the rhotacized > one, depending on whether it follows a consonant or a vowel. Except that adding it to the alveolar trill [r] doesn't produce a sign for a retroflex trill, which is precisely what I'm complaining of. Andreas