Nik Taylor scripsit: > Chinese (Mandarin, at least, I believe other languages) have both. The > inventor of Volapuk was simply mistaken on the "r" issue. Well, Mandarin does have /r/, but it is nothing like [r], which is probably what he was expecting. And the other Sinitic languages don't have anything resembling /r/ at all. -- But that, he realized, was a foolish John Cowan thought; as no one knew better than he [log in to unmask] that the Wall had no other side. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Arthur C. Clarke, "The Wall of Darkness"