From: "Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]> > Yup, except that 'tl' is an illegal consonant cluster in English. > That's presumably why it was heard as "Klingon" . . . Using my "reformed/heterodox" Klingon translit, I spell it 'tlingan hol'. (Everything is case-insensitive and Q /qX/ > k.) Incidentally, Avar /tK/ and /tK>/ are sometimes transliterated as kl and kl', and a /tK/ > /kK/ > /k/ shift has already happened in other Northeast Caucasian languages.