Ray Brown wrote at 2004-04-10 18:31:29 (+0100) > On Saturday, April 10, 2004, at 03:15 AM, Tim May wrote: > [snip] > > Certainly it's not transparent - I'm not claiming that |dh| > > indicates /D/ in English, but rather that the English orthography > > has no way to express /D/ in this situation, > > It does, it's |th|. > > What English doesn't have is any way of distinguishing between [T] > and [D] in _any position_, whether initial, medial or final. Both > sounds are spelled |th|. Finally I think you can make a distinction with silent "e", as Amanda pointed out, but that's not possible in this case. There's only one other final /D/ after a short vowel in the language, that I'm aware of; the question then is whether the spelling of "with" should be considered regular or irregular. I don't think there's any indisputably correct answer to this question. > A proverb about mountains & molehills comes to mind. > > Can't we just let this thread be? If someone wants to write |eth| and > another wants |edh|, what's the big deal? My dictionary gives both > spellings. I quite agree. I have no objection to people using "eth"; I only brought up my reasons for preferring "edh" because Joe objected to it. I wouldn't want to give the impression that I think it's a particularly important issue.