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Henrik Theiling scripsit:

> Does it?  Is that not a simplification of the correct [r\`], i.e.,
> retroflex?  An *alveolar* approximant sounds different to me.

Well, you asked for it.  My /r/, at least, is definitely *not* retroflex:
the tip of my tongue is in the position for [s\], and the rest of it
approximates the entire coronal area.  You could notate it as [j_-].

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