Danny Wier wrote: > From: "Emily Zilch" <emily0@...> > >>HA HA HA, I hoped we wouldn't hit this topic. I've got a problem with >>"emphatic series" because the first time I encountered them was in.... >>Korean. Now Korean emphatic consonants are such a source of constant >>combat between linguists about their actual phonetic realisation that I >>have NO idea how to characterise them. They seem to be "messy" >>glottalics to me (starting just before the stop and passing through it) >>because you tense before the stop is made and "hold" it as a double >>consonant as well. > > > Considering Korean is spoken by so many millions, and it's the language of > two republics and one of the world's largest cities, I can't believe they > can't decide on how 'tense' consonants are pronounced. We had a native > Korean speaker on the list years ago, and I can't remember her name, but she > said something about these being pronounced with glottal tension but not > ejectivity, and that these consonants may also be voiced. These consonants > do correspond to Middle Chinese voiced aspirates, by the way. How so? In loanwords?