Danny Wier wrote:
> We had a native
> Korean speaker on the list years ago, and I can't remember her name

Yoon Ha Lee.

> but she
> said something about these being pronounced with glottal tension but not
> ejectivity, and that these consonants may also be voiced. These consonants
> do correspond to Middle Chinese voiced aspirates, by the way.

*Voiced* aspirates?  I didn't realize Chinese ever had those kinds of

Garth Wallace wrote:
> How so? In loanwords?

Presumably.  Both Korean and Japanese have a considerable
Chinese-derived vocabulary, which often shows some interesting sound
changes, like Japanese ryou, Korean yang.  Other than /j/, the sound
changes have caused no shared phones between the two.  :-)  The original
form was something like *ryang, Korean has a /r/ -> 0/#_(i,j) change,
and Japanese had /N/ -> /u/ (or sometimes /i/), and later /au/ -> /o:/.