En réponse à Sally Caves : >I, too, would love to see a website for Maggel if ever Christophe could get >to it, and his reasons for not getting to it I completely understand, >because Real Life (TM) seems to be bogging me down too. I hope I will, one day. Maybe after I made a METAFONT for Maggel ;) . > The Teonaht grammar >as it is up-Web, so to speak, is disastrously incomplete; I'm making new >additions down-Web to it all the time and not modifying the sites. For one >thing, I downloaded Smart FTP, and haven't quite got the hang of it yet. >Does anybody have that? I'm having to reestablish all my old software, >since the old downloads went the way of the old computer. I don't have Smart FTP. I personally use EFTP (http://www.eftp.org) which I find extremely intuitive. _______________________________________________________________________ En réponse à Christian Thalmann : > > |maggel| > > (the Maggel alphabet doesn't feature capitals) is regularly pronounced > > [m@'gE:l]. > >How boringly sensible. ;-) Hehe :P > > If you want an irregular noun, take rather |imuohf|: cow. It's > > pronounced ['mbu:]. Don't even try to analyse the word's >orthography, it's > > completely off the pronunciation. And it's not the worse example ;) > >Then its plural form is probably |imuohfi|, pronounced >[mE~_kw]. ;-))) LOL. Actually, it's more complicated than that. |imuohf| *is* the plural form (well, the indefinite plural form at least). It's because it's a feminine noun, and for feminine nouns the base form is the indefinite plural :) . Then Maggel nouns have 4 numbers, so we miss three :) . Those are: - the singular: imuofd ['mbag] (believe it or not, this form is actually *more* regular than the previous one, according to Maggel spelling rules ;) . - the dual: imus ['mbuz]. - the definite plural: imhuo ['mb_juO]. Note that the definite plural indicates that the amount is known, but not that the noun is definite (this is marked by the definite article |a(n)|, at least when the noun is not completed by an adjective, a relative clause or another noun ;) ). _______________________________________________________________________ En réponse à Tristan Mc Leay : >Oh, why not? It seems pretty straight-forward: [u], especially before a >vowel, and [b] have much in common, Except that it doesn't fit anymore when you check the other forms of the noun (especially the definite plural ;)) ). > as do [f] and [w] (and we all know >how trivial [ow]=>[u] is). It seems pretty trivial to me :) Except that it isn't ;)) >The silent i- is the only thing that disturbs me, and that only slightly :) Actually, the initial i is close to make sense. You see, the sequence |im| is regularly pronounced [p] or [mp]. I guess [mb] is just a bit irregular :) . _______________________________________________________________________ En réponse à Carsten Becker : >What's declarative, comibned and distributive? It's just because I >haven't got numbers yet. Also, I'm always open for trying new concepts, >that's mainly why I'm conlanging. Actually, it's pretty simple: - declarative numbers are just that: numbers as they are "declared". Basically, when you say "the number one", that's the declarative form. - combined numbers combine (but that's not the reason for the name ;) ) cardinals, ordinals and multiplicative adverbs. They are called "combined" because they are usually combined with a noun (but not always). - distributive numbers are something I stole from Latin :) . They mean "one by one", "two by two", etc... or "each one", "each two", etc... Note that Maggel has number only up to 7999 (it has a base-20 system). At 8000 and above, Maggel uses nouns instead, which have a completely different behaviour from numbers. You can imagine the mess when you want to say "20000 leagues under the sea" ;))) . Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.