Andreas Johansson wrote: > Quoting Tristan Mc Leay <[log in to unmask]>: > > >>Not only that, but last I checked, French doesn't have a /x/ phoneme. Of >>course, I don't know anything about French and the phoneme that ought to >>be spelt <ghqcwh> (/R/) may be devoiced in some contexts, but that >>phoneme is still relatively new to French, and anyway, [X] is no closer >>to [x] than [k] is (a German might---couldn't say for certain, totally >>conjecture---think you're saying Barr or Back instead of Bach). > > > This happens to be unlikely; [X] is a common realization of German /x/ - common > enough that some books list the phoneme as /X/. In German, pronouncing "Bach" > as [bak] is wrong, as [baX] perfectly normal. Fair enough, I was going out on a limb here. But the rest of my points still stand. French is not German. (Except in English, when all foreign languages are essentially French.) -- | Tristan. | To be nobody-but-yourself in a world | [log in to unmask] | which is doing its best to, night and day, | | to make you everybody else--- | | means to fight the hardest battle | | which any human being can fight; | | and never stop fighting. | | --- E. E. Cummings, "A Miscellany" | | | | In the fight between you and the world, | | back the world. | | --- Franz Kafka, | | "RS's 1974 Expectation of Days"