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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:09:50 +0200, Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Quoting Christian Thalmann <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > > I was taught that  was pronounced
> > > like (German) e (and u like eu),
> >
> > That's the case in the spoken High German of many Germans
> > I know.  It might actually have become the standard
> > pronunciation nowadays.  Saying /mE:dCn=/ rather than
> > /me:dCn=/ sounds kinda Swiss to my Swiss ears.  ;-)
>
> Most High German speakers I know do uphold the e~ distinction,

Most of the ones I know don't :) For them, /E:/ is [e:].

> but I'm intrigued by eu~u. As far as I'm aware, I've never met
> anyone distinguishing them, and I don't know what the distinction
> would be.

Nor do I. AFAIK eu = u = oi = oy; all four spellings have identical
pronunciations. (Borrowed words such as "Toilette" excepted.)

Cheers,
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Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>