I'm working on the updates now; they'll be ready in a while. The hill has proved popular, and it's clear that those people who approve of the hill feel more strongly about it than those that don't. If people like the *idea* of the hill but would like the precise shape of it to be changed, they're more than welcome to copy the images and make these changes themselves. The golden line is less popular, and it's silly to include it merely for the sake of heraldic pedantry - there are numerous national flags in the world featuring colour next to colour; to give one example among many: Malawi. I've therefore left the line out of the primary version (with the hill), although I've left it in for the flat version. If there are multiple versions (and two versions with rays, two without sounds good to me), then I think it's best for them to contrast in more than one particular. Ultimately it's up to David how many versions to keep in the race, but for those of us who don't like the rays, the version with the hill clearly has more support behind it. Opinion on the shade of blue sky is a fairly even split, and has produced no strong responses. It's worth noting that no national flag contains pale blue as far as I know (out of those flags illustrated in _The Times Atlas of the World_ the only one with blue that comes even close to being pale belongs to Aruba); and at any rate, the sky at sunrise is not pale blue. A slightly darker shade is probably more atmospheric. Thirdly, one should try to contrast as much as possible with both the yellow and the black. In the end, I've gone for an RGB value of (0, 160, 255). For general interest: an image I found of the Aruban flag represented its shade as (82, 126, 225). The idea of setting the flag in the dimensions of the Golden Rectangle has proved quite popular, so I've gone with that. As an aside, some time ago I calculated the answer to the following question. Suppose you have an A5 sheet of paper, and equal margins on each edge. How many millimetres wide should the margins be so that the space within them is a golden rectangle? The answer is 24.511667808963589190336286050032 mm, which comes out as the result of the following calculation: (1) Take the square root of two, plus the square root of two cubed, minus four. (2) Multiply that by five and take the square root. (3) Subtract that from three times the fourth root of two, minus the fourth root of two cubed. (4) Multiply that by five cubed divided by four. Adrian.