Peter sent me an image of his arms design so that it could be uploaded for all to see - here it is: http://web.netyp.com/member/dragon/temp/conlangarms.png A couple of points came out of the ensuring discussion. One was that the white background could stand for a blank piece of paper (the starting point for any creative project) and the latter was that the design could be improved by highlighting the nib of the quill in some way, to distinguish it from an ordinary feather that isn't used to write with. Peter suggested a yellow nib, although there's an obvious problem there with the metal nib against the metal background, and at any rate I don't feel that it works. http://web.netyp.com/member/dragon/temp/conlangarms2.png I suggested that an alternative way to highlight the nib might be to have a droplet of blue ink falling directly below it. An image illustrating this suggestion has not been produced. Other people may have further comments and suggestions to add. Adrian.