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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:15:06 -0400, Pascal A. Kramm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>As I said, "Bett" is [b@t]. Besides, Sieb is really antiquated already,
>being over 100 years old, so I wouldn't resort to it as a standard.

It's old, but it still matches with the phonemic system of most varieties of
standard German (your very peculiar one excluded, of course).

gry@s:
j. 'mach' wust