I'm glad you like it, Dan. I made it by pasting symbols from SILDoulosIPA into paint and moving parts of the symbols around. It's a 5 minute job. I've also got SILManuscriptIPA and SILSophiaIPA, but I get the best results from Doulos - it's just a nicer font. You can download it from the internet, though I forget the site. I've done a few more which might be suitible for the voiceless sound or varients on it same place as before: http://www.geocities.com/endipatterson/BilateralBilabialFricative.GIF Why on earth IE should ask you to download Chinese fonts, I haven't a clue - it's just a paint program afterall.