On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 11:19 , Paul Bennett wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:54:36 -0400, Damian Yerrick <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> True.  An accented /@/ is pronounced /V/, as evidenced by the
>> phonemic respellings in some English dictionaries published by
>> Merriam-Webster dictionaries, which use the schwa symbol for
>> both [V] and [@].
> I seem to be at odds with the entire English-speaking world. Not only do
> I
> distinguish /i\/ from /@/

So do I.

> (which apparently is unheard of in both American
> and British dictionaries,

Chamber's English Dictionary does; but it doesn't distinguish [i\] from [I]
, giving _affect_ as /&'feEkt/ and _effect_ /I'fEkt/.

> but to my ear as clear as a bell in actual
> speech on both sides of the pond), but I clearly have [V] for /V/, and
> never [@].

Same with me, and generally IME down here in the south east of England.

> A stressed /@/ in my lect is pronounced as whatever vowel it
> was reduced from, which is almost universally reconstructable based on
> English's lovely morphoetymological spelling,

Yep   :)

> and a small measure of knowledge of etymology.

IMO the spelling does it.

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