tomhchappell wrote: > Gary, > I forgot to mention how much I like and appreciate the LOTEP (Loops, > Odd-crossings, Tips, Even-crossings, Pieces) method for ordering the > characters. So do I. I have a few questions, though: 1. How does the LOTEP system handle dots? Do they count as a single endpoint? What would the LOTEP number for (helvetica) |i| be - 00302 ? 2. Your second example on the page (the 22631 glyph) seems to have an "angle" (discontinuity in the first derivative, if it were a curve). I understand that angles are not counted as "Even crossings". Would it be an idea to add an Angle count, defined as the number of points where there is a discontinuity in the first derivative along a line (otherwise just a 2-crossing - I mean that Odd and Even crossings don't count as Angles) René