on 11/15/05 1:25 AM, Peter Bleackley at [log in to unmask] wrote: > I have heard that some "Native Americans" prefer to self-designate as "Red" > - for example, there is a lobbying group called WARN, which stands for > "Women of All Red Nations". > > I don't know if this proves anything, other than that self-designation is a > matter of personal taste. > > Pete (who self-designates as "English"). Hanuman Zhang, who self-designates as a WOG (Wiley Oriental Gentlecreature), and BBC (British-Born Chinese) -- Hanuman Zhang "...So what is life for? Life is for beauty and substance and sound and colour; and even those are often forbidden by law [socio-cultural conventions]. . . . Why not be free and live your own life? Why follow other people's rules and live to please others?..." - Lieh-Tzu/Liezi, Taoist Sage (c. 450- c. 375 BCE) From bamboogrove.com: # The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove were a group of Chinese scholars # and poets of the mid-3rd century AD who banded together to escape from # the hypocrisy and danger of the official world to a life of drinking # wine and writing verse in the country. Their retreat was typical of the # Taoist-oriented ch'ing-t'an ("pure conversation") movement that advocated # freedom of individual expression and hedonistic escape from extremely # corrupt politics. Their ideal consisted in following their impulses and # acting spontaneously. Their outstanding collective characteristic was # their sensitivity to the beauties of nature.