On 1/19/06, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I was hoping that the stems, at least, might be consecutive in
> Unicode, given their alphabet-like uses in Chinese culture
That wasn't the ordering principle used, though :) And if it were, it
wouldn't have helped order the others, since few sets of characters
have a "natural" ordering.
AFAIK, all existing CJK character sets and Unicode use one of two
systems: shape-based (radical-stroke, for example; not sure whether
other methods are in use in character sets) or pronunciation-based.
(Sometimes the two are combined; for example, IIRC the Japanese JIS
encoding uses pronunciation for one block of relatively more common
characters, followed by a block of less-common characters ordered by
FWIW, in Japanese I remember them as "kou, otsu, hei, tei, bo, ki,
kou, shin, jin, ki" (jikkan = ten stems) and "ne, ushi, tora, u,
tatsu, mi, uma, hitsuji, saru, tori, inu, i" (juunishi = twelve
The first set of names bears some resemblance to the Chinese names
since it uses the Chinese-derived "on" readings, but the second set
uses Japanese "kun" readings.
Also FWIW, I usually "translate" the twelve animals into the following
characters: $BAM(B (nezumi - rat), $B5m(B (ushi - cow), $B8W(B (tora - tiger), $BEF(B
(usagi - rabbit), $BN5(B (tatsu/ryuu - dragon), $B[log in to unmask]>
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