* On 2006-03-16 18:59:06 +0100 Mark J. Reed wrote: > One thing that I only became aware of after reading JC Wells' book is > that there are several sounds I had thought of as foreign, non-English > sounds, that actually occur in my own everyday variety of English! /snip examples/ > > Then there's the rampant labialization, palatalization, and > nasalization! "Queen" may be /kwin/ phonemically, but it comes out as > [k_w_hi~J_}]. Holy crap! > > Anyone else had an experience like this? Maybe if I'd had more than > one quarter of linguistics in college I would have had this a-ha > moment in class instead of when I read the book, but it really sort of > blew me away. Have you tried recording yourself and making spectrograms (with for instance Praat <http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/>)? Amazing what weird stuff becomes visible that way. Sounds that are voiced when they shouldn't, weird approximants etc. t.