On 3/16/06, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > One thing that I only became aware of after reading JC Wells' book is > that there are several sounds I had thought of as foreign, non-English > sounds, that actually occur in my own everyday variety of English! > This came as something as a shock, but I cannot dispute it. Careful > attention to my speech reveals, for instance, that the word > "cucumber", which I think of as beginning with /kj/, actually comes > out of my mouth with an aspirated palatal affricate [c_hC], although > the initial stop feels closer to [k] than [c] - maybe it's [k_j]. And Hmm...I seem to pronounce it similarly. > while words like "huge" and "human" normally have a real [hj] cluster > to match my phonemic /hj/, they likewise occasionally start with [C] > instead- perhaps an overcorrection in my desire to avoid the > to-me-distasteful (despite being historically correct!) pronunciation > with a bare initial [j]. [judZ] and [jumen] for me. See previous email...I've always been a bit vowel-differences deaf. > > Then there's the rampant labialization, palatalization, and > nasalization! "Queen" may be /kwin/ phonemically, but it comes out as > [k_w_hi~J_}]. Holy crap! [kujn] for me...weird.