Rex May wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:08 -0800, Donald J. HARLOW <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Je 10.23 atm 2007.01.02, Risto KUPSALA skribis >>> Rex May kirjoitti: >> >> >>>> There are two problems: Western meddling in the Islamic world, and >>>> Islamic immigration into the Western world, both of which should >>>> be stopped ASAP. >>>> >>> And how would you deal with the Jew..., eh, Immigrant Question? Some >>> kind of a final solution, perhaps? >> I fervently disagree with Rex on the question of _Islamic_ >> immigration (though perhaps we might be more in agreement on the >> question of _any_ immigration, no outside groups specifically >> discriminated against [*]), but your reply is not terribly helpful. >> "Jew Question" exists only minimally in the U.S., at least, and is in >> no way identical with "Immigrant Question", since almost all of >> America's Jewish population was born here, as were their parents and >> -- in large part -- grandparents before them, and they are as much >> native-born Americans as I myself or Rex. The term "final solution" >> in this context, because of its historical connotations, is extremely >> tendentious. >> >> I think it would be nice if you admitted to Rex that you just got >> carried away and don't intend to do so again. >> > > Thanks, Don. You say good stuff. > > Actually, I think Risto was making an analogy between the > Shoah and my opinion that Europe should cut off Muslim > immigration, which leads to... well, it cuts off the discussion. > > Anyhow, all I recommend is that countries' governments do > what is best for their countries. From all I've heard, massive > influxes of immigrants that can't be digested are a > magnificently bad idea. Europe has this problem with people > who are predominantly Muslim, and it will pay the price for > its shortsightedness. And it's not that they're Muslim, it's > that they don't fit. If a huge bunch of Catholic Frenchmen > were to immigrate to Algeria, they wouldn't fit, and there'd > be trouble.... oh, wait. That already happened, didn't it? > > Sometimes generosity needs to be tempered with a little > common sense. And, Don, we don't need to discriminate > against groups, but against individuals, and we're not doing > either one in the US at the moment. I don't know what > European governments are doing, but it's not working out > very well. > > _Camp of the Saints_ should be required reading. > And let's not forget the large number of European immigrants to the North American continent and the effect it had on the native peoples there.