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Rex May wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:08 -0800, Donald J. HARLOW <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Je 10.23 atm 2007.01.02, Risto KUPSALA skribis
>>> Rex May kirjoitti:
>>
>>
>>>> There are two problems: Western meddling in the Islamic world, and
>>>> Islamic immigration into the Western world, both of which should
>>>> be stopped ASAP.
>>>>
>>> And how would you deal with the Jew..., eh, Immigrant Question? Some
>>> kind of a final solution, perhaps?
>> I fervently disagree with Rex on the question of _Islamic_
>> immigration (though perhaps we might be more in agreement on the
>> question of _any_ immigration, no outside groups specifically
>> discriminated against [*]), but your reply is not terribly helpful.
>> "Jew Question" exists only minimally in the U.S., at least, and is in
>> no way identical with "Immigrant Question", since almost all of
>> America's Jewish population was born here, as were their parents and
>> -- in large part -- grandparents before them, and they are as much
>> native-born Americans as I myself or Rex. The term "final solution"
>> in this context, because of its historical connotations, is extremely
>> tendentious.
>>
>> I think it would be nice if you admitted to Rex that you just got
>> carried away and don't intend to do so again.
>>
> 
> Thanks, Don.  You say good stuff.
> 
> Actually, I think Risto was making an analogy between the
> Shoah and my opinion that Europe should cut off Muslim
> immigration, which leads to... well, it cuts off the discussion.
> 
> Anyhow, all I recommend is that countries' governments do
> what is best for their countries.  From all I've heard, massive
> influxes of immigrants that can't be digested are a
> magnificently bad idea.   Europe has this problem with people
> who are predominantly Muslim, and it will pay the price for
> its shortsightedness.  And it's not that they're Muslim, it's
> that they don't fit.  If a huge bunch of Catholic Frenchmen
> were to immigrate to Algeria, they wouldn't fit, and there'd
> be trouble.... oh, wait.  That already happened, didn't it?
> 
> Sometimes generosity needs to be tempered with a little
> common sense.  And, Don, we don't need to discriminate
> against groups, but against individuals, and we're not doing
> either one in the US at the moment.   I don't know what
> European governments are doing, but it's not working out
> very well.
> 
> _Camp of the Saints_ should be required reading.
> 
And let's not forget the large number of European immigrants to the 
North American continent and the effect it had on the native peoples there.