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On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, John Vertical wrote:

> Paul Bennett wrote:
>> However, I discovered last night, while rolling these posts around  
>> in my  mind, that I can produce a velar trill (though it sounds  
>> *horrible*) and  thus a labiovelar trill. Making that into a  
>> doubly-articulated flap/tap  might take work, but I think it might  
>> be worth it...
>
> Are you sure it's a strictly velar trill, not a velarized uvular  
> trill or some sort of a gargle effect? It's not supposed to be  
> possible to trill the dorsum. Makes me wonder why the IPA still  
> leaves the palatal trill as "possible but not attestested" tho.

What's being trilled, then, when you pronounce a uvular trill? (I've  
never been clear on why some languages have a uvular trill or  
fricative or approximant but not a velar one.)