I work around the missing sounds and structures (must have vowels at the end, etc). On 1/21/07, Deinx Nxtxr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Ditto for "Paris", "Seoul", "Kagoshima", "Iraq", "Madrid", "Havana", > > "São Paulo" etc. Paris: /m&li/ Seoul (hard to type!): /syl2/ Kagoshima: /k&N2Sim&/ Iraq: /Cil&Ni/ Madrid: /m&lin&/ Havana: /C&f&n&/ :) SE<atilde>o Paulo: /s2p&l2/ It's harder to do something like "Helsinki" because of /ls/; you need to throw in a vowel in Cenoji. It comes out like: /Cel&siNi/.