On 01/02/07, Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: ^^ Thanks Mark, that looks much betterly! > "T. A. McLeay" <[log in to unmask]> hat escreut: > The Russian pronunciations are IIANM /'i:g@r;/ and > /I'va:n/ (Yitzik are you listening? You even used to be an > Igor IIRC?) I did not think that Russian made a distinction of length. > > I imagine the nearest vowel in my speech to the Russian > > vowel is in fact "short i". (The Russian word _ty_ ("you") > > is sometimes very close to how I pronouce the name of the > > fourth letter of the (English) alphabet, altho the Russian > > vowel usually strikes me as broader than I'd aim for...) > > Russian has both /i/, Romanized _i_, and /i\/, Romanized _y_ > as different phonemes. Indeed, it was that contrast that I was alluding to by observing that "y" sounds more like my /Ii/ than "i" does, or vice versa. Hence that "Igor"/"Ivan" with a "long e" vowel is not particularly much more apt than with a "long i" vowel. Perhaps I should try saying what I mean, instead of expecting people to jump to my conclusions :) -- Tristan.