On  Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:37:37 -0700,  "Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Je 07:10 atm 10/30/2007, Bruce GILSON skribis:
>The expanded version will also have some words added which Jespersen
>could not have put in in 1930 (things like "televisione" which are
>obviously easy to construct, but which refer to things that didn't
>exist in 1930!)

Actually, the first television was demonstrated in 1884
(electromechanical rather than strictly electronic), and the word
itself dates from 28 years before Novial (1900). I remember reading
somewhere that the first American government official to appear in a
TV transmission (not broadcast) was Secretary of Commerce ... Herbert
Hoover. The world's first color TV transmission was more or less
simultaneous with the publication of Novial (1928).
While I wasn't aware that color had been tried that early, even that fails to make it any less true that "television" was hardly a word that was familiar to most people in 1930, when NL was produced. (Of course, the NL contains a number of rather exotic words. The English words "smallage," "agio," and "roads" were not in my vocabulary when I first saw them in NL, though someone mentioned back in 1997 when I brought it up on the Novial revision committee that "roads:" was a naval term, which explained "Hampton Roads" as a proper name to me. I still have never had any occasion to use either of the other two terms.)

>or didn't think to put in (like some of the chemical elements; he
>put in some, but not all).

On the other hand, there are a number of chemical elements extant
today -- I presume you will include them -- which were unknown, or at
least had different names, in Jespersen's time, including a couple
that are not transuranics (e.g. promethium).
Of course. Chemistry is the field I specialized in when I was in school, so I am quite aware of such things.

                                                                     Bruce R. Gilson
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