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> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Risto Kupsala
> 
> >  >> > > I'm not sure what "grandiose claims" we've
> made.
> >  >> >
> >  >> > Here are a few:
> >  >> > Languages based on European languages are
> somehow
> >  >> imperialist
> >  >> > and racist
> >  >> > Only wordlangs have a chance of succeeding,
> in
> >  >> spite of zero
> >  >> evidence
> >  >> > thus far to the contrary
> >  >>
> >  >> I've never seen that claim made.
> >  >
> >  > I have, though I'd have to wade through the
> archive to
> >  > get the exact quote. I think it was Risto.
> > 
> > Yes, I admit it, but it was only about
> imperialism.
> 
> Which is a valid criticism against global use of a
> culturally biased
> language. 
> 
> If someone wants to see bashing, go here:
> 
> 	http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/
> 
> And as harsh as the author's attach on E-o is, every
> point made is a
> valid criticism of E-o, offering us all a lesson to
> learn from in
> devising future auxlangs.

"Every" point? I'm not reflexively pro-Eo, believe it
or not, and I see a number of places where his rabies
is talking, not his brain. I'm reminded of C. S.
Lewis' remark about critics who claim to have seen
through what they haven't even seen. 
> 
> > I agree with the second argument too, but I
> wouldn't put too much 
> > emphasis on "in spite of zero evidence thus
> far"... ;-)
> 
> I wouldn't even say that.  I'd say that worldlangs
> could appeal to a
> more diverse user base, not that that would mean
> larger numbers of
> people.  The actual ability to become popular enough
> on a global
> scale to be considered a *success* is something
> that's more likely
> to be the result the methods and resources used to
> promote the
> language rather than how well designed it is.  I
> still think no
> conlang stands much of a chance of ever being more
> than a cult
> languages, but there is that minute possibility of
> lightning
> striking.
> 
I'd actually agree with all that.

Steve


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