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Hi Laurent,

> cf. http://colab.mpdl.mpg.de/mediawiki/TEI_Bibliographic_Information
> which in turns points to a "special issues" page that you can contribute 
> to:
> http://colab.mpdl.mpg.de/mediawiki/TEI_Bibliographic_Information/special_issues 

Thank you very much, this page is really helpful. And I will definitly 
take the chance to contribute some encodings for historical imprints.

Viele Grüße
Oliver


> Schönes Wochenende,
> Laurent
> 
> 
> Le 17 mai 08 à 16:40, Oliver Duntze a écrit :
> 
>> Dear TEIers
>>
>> I'm trying to encode some rather complex bibliographical data in the
>> <sourceDesc>-Element of the TEI-Header, and I'm wondering if there is
>> any best practice for encoding the bibliographical record of printed
>> sources. Especially, I'm not quite sure about the decision between 
>> <biblFull> or <biblStruct>.
>>
>> For instance the guidelines at diglib.org are recommending <biblFull>. 
>> Unforunately,the examples given there are quite simple. It seems to 
>> me, that <biblFull> is lacking some important elements, especially for 
>> encoding the scope of journal-articles or parts of multivolume works.
>>
>> An example: Novalis' essay "Die Christenheit oder Europa" was edited
>> posthumously by L. Tieck and F. Schlegel in the first part of the 4th
>> edition of Novalis' "Schriften" (collected works). In an unstructured
>> format that would be:
>>
>> <bibl>Novalis: Die Christenheit oder Europa. Ein Fragment. (Geschrieben
>> im Jahre 1799). In: Novalis: Schriften. Vierte, vermehrte Auflage. Hrsg.
>> v. Ludwig Tieck u. Friedrich Schlegel. Bd. 1. Berlin: Reimer, 1826, S.
>> 187-208. (Copy used: mylibrary, callumber xyz)</bibl>
>>
>> It's no problem encoding this in <biblStruct>. But when I try to
>> encode it in the <biblFull>-Format, it looks like this:
>>
>> <biblFull>
>> <titleStmt>
>>   <title level="a" type="main">Die Christenheit oder Europa</title>
>>   <title level="a" type="subordinate">Ein Fragment.(Geschrieben im
>>                 Jahre 1799)</title>
>>   <title level="m" type="main">Schriften</title>
>>   <title level="m" type="subordinate">Bd. 1</title>
>>   <author>Novalis</author>
>> </titleStmt>
>> <editionStmt>
>>   <edition>Vierte, vermehrte Auflage</edition>
>>   <respStmt>
>>     <resp>Hrsg. v. </resp>
>>     <name>Tieck, Ludwig ; Schlegel, Friedrich</name>
>>   </respStmt>
>> </editionStmt>
>> <extent>S. 187-208</extent>
>> <publicationStmt>
>>   <publisher>Reimer</publisher>
>>   <pubPlace>Berlin</pubPlace>
>>   <date>1826</date>
>> </publicationStmt>
>> <notesStmt>
>>    <note type="location">
>>      <name type="library">mylibrary</name>
>>      <ident type="callNo">xyz</ident>
>>    </note>
>> </notesStmt>
>> </biblFull>
>>
>> As far as I can see, there are at least three problems:
>> - The scope of the essay (p. 187-208) may be encoded in the
>> <extent>-element, but I would prefer that for information like "20 pp."
>> or "10MB". Using <biblStruct>, it could be encoded in the
>> <biblScope>-element.
>>
>> - It is difficult to encode that the essay was printed in the first
>> volume of the "Schriften", because the volume-number is not exactly a 
>> subtitle (in <biblStruct> this would be encoded in an 
>> <biblScope>-element too).
>> It may be possible to put this information in the <seriesStmt>. But a)
>> the "Schriften" are not a series, but *one* work printed in several
>> volumes. And what if b) the there's also a 'real' series title: E.g. if
>> Novalis' Schriften were printed as part 3-6 of a series "German writers
>> of the 19th century"?
>>
>> - Finally, it is not clear if the <author>-element is referring to the
>> author of the essay or to the author of the monography. In this case
>> both are identical, but it could be two persons. E.g. if you like to
>> encode the bibliographical record of Tiecks introduction to Novalis'
>> work, which was printed as a foreword to the fist part of the 
>> "Schriften".
>>
>> I would be thankful for any information if these problems also occur in
>> other digitization projects, and how they are dealing with
>> bibliographical metadata.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver
>>
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>>
>> Dr. Oliver Duntze
>> Deutsches Textarchiv
>> Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften
>>
>> Jägerstr. 22/23
>> 10117 Berlin
>>
>> Tel.:     +49 (0)30 20370 523
>> E-Mail:   [log in to unmask]
>>
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Dr. Oliver Duntze
Deutsches Textarchiv
Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften

Jägerstr. 22/23
10117 Berlin

Tel.:     +49 (0)30 20370 523
E-Mail:   [log in to unmask]

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